Moving onto Heyman, Blayze said she owed Roman Reigns' "Wiseman" a lot. Blayze was part of Heyman's Dangerous Alliance faction in WCW, until she was kicked out of the group in October 1992. Blayze ended up facing Heyman, then known as Paul E. Dangerously, in a match the following month at Clash of the Champions 21.
"With Paul, I never had much controversy," Blayze explained. "Unless I just didn't, you know, 'Hey, I think this is great.' 'No, I don't, Paul.' 'Yes, you're going to do it anyway.' But if it [weren't] for him keeping his foot down on a lot of incidences, and him putting himself in that position for me to beat the crap out of him, you know, in matches and continuously, again, I never would have [risen] to what I, and my potential, that I did in WCW."
Blayze said she and Heyman became close friends, noting the former ECW boss invited her to his children's Bar Mitzvahs. She went on to say she learned "the fight," "the non-hesitation," and "the will to put yourself in it and do it" from Heyman. He also provided Blayze with the opportunity to speak on the microphone, and it was something he would never take away from her, even if she sucked at it. When asked who helped her more between Heyman and Nakano, Blayze said it wasn't a legitimate question because the dynamics were different, with Heyman in management and Nakano as a wrestler.